Coaches and GM's who will be fired - 2025 Season

[Brian wolf]

Surprising that Chris Grier finally got canned by the Dolphins. Many felt he had something on the owner to keep his job for so long without a playoff victory. Ross didnt fire McDaniel though, who gets a lame-duck sendoff. Maybe the team could rally for its coach but its doubtful. With an owner that rewards coaches for losing and screwing up a chance to get Tom Brady, the next coach
will have a hell of an uphill climb. The fans and press are all over Tua Tags but despite a tough season, he is a much tougher QB than people realize. He will bounce back whether for this team or another one ... I am still pulling for him.

[Brian wolf]

Could Kellen Moore be one-and-done in New Orleans? It would seem improbable but you have a franchise that has way too much talent to be 1-8, regardless of the QB situation. Despite being a high second round draft pic, Shough had to wait his turn to be the starter at QB. Injuries on the offensive line have hurt and maybe they want to play younger people for better draft position.

[Brian wolf]

Well, the Saints are improving under Moore but you wonder how the team might have done if Shough quarterbacked all year? Arch Manning might have been an option in the draft but he will go back to Texas for 2026.

--I felt if Miami would beat the Steelers, McDaniel might save his job with after a winning streak but as usual, the team cant win in the cold with the runners only getting 15 carries. Can McDaniel ever win a big game? Should Ross get another HC to try to win with Tua Tags?

-- Is Pete Carroll going to get another year with the Raiders? The team is dreadful. If he does, will Geno Smith stay as well?

--The Jets just fired their DC two weeks before Christmas. Should Glenn come back or hope a rookie QB in the draft can help him? Should he bring in Russell Wilson for veteran leadership next year?

-- Are these the final weeks for Taylor in Cincy, Stefanski in Clev, Gannon in Ariz? Would Brown really get rid of Taylor despite an AFC Championship? Would the Browns get rid of a two-time COTY? If Gannon got fired would Murray be back for his third HC?
With Penix hurt, could Atlanta retain Morris and Cousins?

[SeahawkFever]

Well tomorrow is Black Monday.

Who is getting fired in your opinions?

And has anything surprised you so far this season as far as firings of head coaches or GM’s?

[Brian wolf]

Surprised Morris got fired. Stefanski was let go. Taylor in Cincy is safe. The Falcons have cleaned out everybody, including Rich McKay*

Wouldnt surprise me if McDaniel and Carroll keep their jobs.

Carroll is done as well. Time to stay retired Pete, unless he could be an assistant somewhere. Gannon is now gone as well. Hitting a player didnt help his chances. The team I felt, quit playing for him.

*Edited

[Brian wolf]

According to Mike McDaniel, he will be part of the Dolphins hiring process for a GM ... seriously? From famine to feast? ... this move is almost as comical as Weeb Ewbank asking his veteran players on final cuts his rookie season as HC. Weeb did pretty well after that ...

[JWL]

The final drive of the first half against Denver can be the focus of an entire chapter in a book about Jets franchise futility. That is how bad that drive was from multiple standpoints. If we are talking a 400+ page book with 31 chapters and huge portions devoted to Lou Holtz and Richie Kotite and Adam Gase, that drive would still be worth its own entire 15-page chapter. That is just how truly putrid it was. That is the low point of the Aaron Glenn tenure. It will be difficult to top it in terms of patheticness. Now, Glenn might have to show up naked at a game to be fired before the end of the season. He could certainly be a one-and-done though like Steve Wilks was in Arizona or Rod Rust in New England if the team continues to struggle and Glenn has a hard time getting out of his own way.

The Jets had several close losses to good teams and with two key defensive players out and new systems in place on offense, defense, and special teams. I would have been okay with 4-13 if the team looked competent. I'm still going to be fine with that. Especially now, in fact, since that would mean improving from a winning percentage of .000 to go 4-7 the rest of the way. I think it is still too early and I won't make rash judgments off of six games when the offensive, defensive, and special teams coordinators are all new too. I did not take the over on the Jets win total this year which I think was 5.5 or 6.5. Too many new elements and too destroyed of a team, even mentally, from the horrible second half of the Saleh/Ulbrich era.

We'll revisit this thread later in the season and see what we each think then.

Okay, now that the season is done I will agree with sheajets. Aaron Glenn is terrible as an NFL head coach.

Let's examine several reasons as to why. Presented in no particular order-

1. Justin Fields is probably now doomed to a career as a backup. Maybe he'll start by default for 2 or 3-game stretches later in his career but I cannot see him being handed a starting job any time soon. That said, I felt the Jets gave up way too early on him. The other QBs on the roster were never going to be a long-term solutions (oft-injured aging Tyrod Taylor and Hall of Fame Game 4th quarter clock killer type/camp arm Brady Cook) so why not keep putting Fields out there? Fields was hand-picked by Glenn. Then Glenn basically gave him half a season to try to prove anything. Again, as key as anything here is that there wasn't a better option so Fields should have played more.


2. The end of the first half of the game vs the Broncos and the end of the first half of the game vs Carolina. The drives by the Jets offense in those spots can be studied at coaching clinics in terms of what not to do.


3. Barely any of the veterans seemed to get better under Glenn. Most got worse. Quincy Williams, a former All-Pro, seemed to forget how to play football at times.


4. Comparisons to Johnny Mazur and Card-Pitt. If you compare well to that head coach and that team, then you have problems, massive problems.

The follow paragraph had been written to coworkers prior to the season finale.

The Jets are the first team since the 1972 Patriots to lose by 23 or more points in four consecutive games. Johnny Mazur was the head coach responsible for that mess. After losing games by scores of 14-38, 13-41, 3-33, and 10-34, the Pates lost their next game by a score of 17-24. Then they lost 0-52. Mazur was then canned with five games left in the season never to be a head coach again. Mazur is not a head coach to whom a head coach would want to closely be compared.

The Jets didn't stop there. They chose to lose by more than 23 points again to make it five in a row. No other team in history has accomplished this amazing feat of atrociousness.

I don't know if this list is full (I haven't finished my research) but these are the teams I have come across so far that have had 5-game losing streaks where the team was spanked by at least 20 points in each of the five games-
1944 Card-Pitt
1949 Packers
1952 Texans
1965 Steelers
2025 Jets

Point differential in those five game spans-
1944 Card-Pitt: 120
1949 Packers: 114
1952 Texans: 128
1965 Steelers: 129
2025 Jets: 134

As bad as a merged unit and a franchise that was one-and-done? Special, special company.


5. The defense that was comatose for most of the season. 0 interceptions. 4 takeaways. Both are historical marks of futility.


6. Rolling over and playing dead against all three divisional foes in the 5-game stretch to finish the season. I understand half the players who played will not be on the team in 2026 but I am sure the coaching staff is planning on being back. Any professional pride? No, you say? Oh, okay. Thanks, guys.


7. Can I hear something strategic from Glenn in a press conference instead of bromides about effort and how things will be fixed and the tape will be watched? I am not expecting Glenn to sound like Greg Cosell and dissect plays for the media and fans. Too much strategy talk could be detrimental if opponents hear it but there could be a little bit more from him than talking about effort and that things will be fixed.

You don’t hear it a ton but you will hear other head coaches giving the media and fans a little more than bromides and nothingness talk. When head coaches are interviewed by the press, they are talking to the press, the fans, and their players all at the same time. They have to be careful about what they say. The thing is, sometimes you have to not sound like you are talking to people who discovered the sport of football five days ago. C’mon. We know better. We don’t want to hear how good practice was leading up to a game that you lost by three touchdowns.

“I have to look at the film” is 95% of the time coach speak for “I know that was problematic but I am not going to answer that question now and I may not answer it even if you ask it again in Monday’s press conference.” Again, most of us didn’t discover football five days ago. We watched the game, Coach. Did you not watch it too? Were you playing Candy Crush or Royal Kingdom on your cell phone during the game?

It is okay to say, “This game was not good enough. It is an embarrassment for us to lose to our division rivals 42 to 10 and be stomped on like a bear stepping on a snail before it walks into a stream to catch some salmon. The operation we are looking to run here doesn’t have Be obliterated by a division rival in front of our own fans written anywhere in the team mission statement. What more can I say? I am disgusted by my performance today as the head coach and the result. I’ll now take your questions.”

(If a coach throws in some weird animal reference, the fans really like this. It is science. By “fans” I am referring specifically to myself.)

There is no reason to say, “We will look at the film and look to turn things around.” You don’t need to say that because it is obvious that that is what you will do. A horse trainer doesn’t need to say, “I am going to go into the stable today.” Of course you don’t have to say that. The horse is there. You have to go into the stable to train the horse. A werewolf doesn’t say, “I am going to rip my shirt off tonight.” Of course a werewolf will rip its shirt off. It’s an obvious thing a werewolf will do. Just tell us the team stunk in the game, that it was an utter embarrassment, the result will not be tolerated, and we have to wear this stink like a dog that got sprayed by a skunk. That is what the fans want to hear.

When can I have a smooth talking, master of the media Jets head coach? I suppose that is one aspect that makes a good head coach a good head coach. The Jets have not had one since Rex Ryan but, as I correctly predicted with him before he coached his first game with the Jets, his act had a shelf life. Herman Edwards was good with the media too.

Speaking of Edwards, something that happened last night reminded me of him. That is for another thread.

[sheajets]

I don't understand them keeping Glenn if he's just going to get fired next year at 1-6 or at the latest Black Friday 2027. The team outright quit and checked out. Capable players got worse. Jettisoning Rodgers and bringing in Fields was a very big red flag and showed incredibly poor judgement. The guy can't throw at the NFL level...what are you thinking? Kind of knew it was doomed there.

Again instead of hiring a proven veteran coach they got a 1st time coordinator clown who peacocked in like Saleh and proved to be in over his head. and now they're just kicking the can down the road. If they draft a young QB in 2026 you're going to make sure he has to go through a coaching change right off the bat.

[Brian wolf]

Its still hard to believe the Jets won shootouts against the Bengals and Falcons. They even scored 27 points against a tough Brown's defense. Fields was bad but the receivers didnt help. How bad was Garrett Wilson's knee? It seemed like he just vanished?

The Commanders let go of Kingsbury ... I dont know about that. I guess they felt he would be a HC somewhere anyway, but Daniels deserved a third season with him. Injuries, and McLaurin having a very disappointing season, did them in.

[sheajets]

Its still hard to believe the Jets won shootouts against the Bengals and Falcons. They even scored 27 points against a tough Brown's defense. Fields was bad but the receivers didnt help. How bad was Garrett Wilson's knee? It seemed like he just vanished?

The Commanders let go of Kingsbury ... I dont know about that. I guess they felt he would be a HC somewhere anyway, but Daniels deserved a third season with him. Injuries, and McLaurin having a very disappointing season, did them in.

Not that bad. He could've played the last few weeks but they held him out. Same with Tyrod Taylor...was healthy but they played Cook

The Jets strangely had excellent special teams this year which is the only reason they were 3-14 and not 1-16. Them putting up 500 yards of total offense against the Bengals was truly bizarre