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rewing84 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 22, 2025 12:44 am
would anyone agree that otis taylor is at best a questionable pick
of the three on semis, Taylor averages most TDs per 17 games, 2nd most yards per game, 2nd most receptions per game
and that is without any era adjustment.
Ellard has 4 'big' years -- 1294 yards or more, not many guys have 5 or more. Rice the most with 7
Morgan, first part of career, among best-ever deep threats, then offense/QB changed ... and got hurt ... then had moster year in 1986 -- were he didn't drop a pass (per Patriots coaches grades) and went over middle and things he never did before. Then went bakc to kind of the 1983-85 vetsion
Seniors/Coach/Contributor Endorsed By Senior Committee
K Anderson
Roger Craig
LC Greenwood
Bill Belichick
Robert Kraft
We will see who gets voted in. I predict Belichick and Greenwood.
Could this be the year for Kraft and Anderson? All are deserving but if Greenwood is elected, its because of his postseason play, though he has been in the queue for finalists, numerous times.
For me, there are enough Steelers from that era elected but maybe the Senior Committee feels someone from a dominant team with finalist nominations can get voted in.
Brian wolf wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:59 pm
Seniors/Coach/Contributor Endorsed By Senior Committee
K Anderson
Roger Craig
LC Greenwood
Bill Belichick
Robert Kraft
We will see who gets voted in. I predict Belichick and Greenwood.
Could this be the year for Kraft and Anderson? All are deserving but if Greenwood is elected, its because of his postseason play, though he has been in the queue for finalists, numerous times.
For me, there are enough Steelers from that era elected but maybe the Senior Committee feels someone from a dominant team with finalist nominations can get voted in.
If I had to guess it would be RK, BB, and Craig ... but of course, the full committee could go another way
if there has to be one -- likely but not 100% guaranteed
Anderson had a donut hole in career. Sure, injuries, lots of things out of his control, but if comparing side by side
and have to eliminate two of three, I think that is biggest think, lack of sustained greatness.
His best comparison though is Stabler, who didn't have a hole, but a decline that does not inspire HOF thoughts. The next might be that a QB has more "value" and "fame" in someone wants to go down that route.
Greenwood, elite playoff player, though two of his playoff sacks were better scored as going to someone else, one in SB X and one in SB III ... but still, even without the two, he had an impact in the biggest games. In the regular season he had his two All-Pro, but never had any close calls, second team All-Pro years not getting enough votes to be considered the 3rd or 4th "best DE" ... but did have the 6 All-AFC/Pro Bowl seasons, 4 others than the 1974-75 All-Pro ... then you can throw in 1971, a good stat season, so maybe call it 7 years above the line ... seems reasonable for HOF, considered a good run defender ecen though he ws not of stout build.
Usually, I prefer blockers or tackles, so my bias would be for Greenwood, but I do think Roger Craig was the more significant player, from impact, eye test, those things. I think his PSI ranks were very high, number one as his position at least 3 times ... top FB and a top RB, though in a two back set not a ton of difference In other word,s Rathman was different than he was. So some of the #1 ranks as a FB are rightly questioned because he was playing FB in the way CHuck Foreman played fullback ... not Rathman. Bloicking was expected by halfbacks i.e. Wendell Tyler had to block, too.
All that -- and I would have preferred Jacoby over all of them
Simple Jack ... Craig injured his knee in 1990 his eigth season. He came back to finish the year but just hung on his final three seasons, a shell of his former self. He actually looks like Chuck Foreman and had baically, the same career, though Craig was bigger in the SB games