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Brian wolf wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 4:07 pm With Hester in as a returner, why not put a gunner in with Tasker?
Vinatieri can get in this or next year as well ...

SeahawkFever wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:04 am

Of the three receivers if you asked me to pick one, I might take Ellard.

Three pro bowls, two first team all pros, and he ranked third all time in receiving yardage up to his retirement in 1998 as well as sixth in receptions.

Not sure how amazing I’d say the Rams quarterbacks in the 1980’s and early 90’s would be, and the Redskins quarterbacks in the mid 90’s would be either.

JohnTurney wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 6:17 pm

pgconboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 1:57 pm Fairly uninspiring historical group,

disappoint no 'super' seniors. That's the way of it, I guess.

3 WRs...

How do they rank?
Morgan, elite as deep threat for first part. As a more complete or "#1" type guy ... season averages not that impressive. One monstrous year among a bunch of so-so wons, post-1982

Ellard ... most impressive is 800 yards receiving catching passes from Deiter Brock in 1985. Or maybe 6 TD catches from Jeff Kemp. 3 190-yard games. More consistgen as true #1 -- call it 1986 on ...

both have about same number of 100 yard games. Neither killer playoffstagts. Both excellent punt returners.

How do you separate them? Maybe they are elite HOVGers rather then low-sih HOFers?

Otis Taylor, IMO, 4 great years, even accounting for dead ball era, to me 800 yards in 1972 is a "1,000" yard season -- my issue, even counting 1969 as great year (SB performance) was done by age 30.

uninspiring is a good word

Brian wolf wrote: ↑Sat Nov 22, 2025 11:44 am There are pros and cons with Taylor, Robert, and some people felt he never met his physical potential but its close.

First off, he was a great receiver on a run-heavy, conservative, defensive team. He helped make them a great team, who won a SB and two AFL Championships. Had the Chiefs defense not had an uncharacteristic bad day against the Raiders in the 1968 divisional playoff, they might have went to another SB. The team was also strong in 1970, but faded down the stretch because the QBs didnt get the ball to Taylor enough. In 1971, the team and Taylor had another great year but couldnt kick their way into the AFC Championship game.

Taylor was big in postseason games, including the 1966 and 69 AFL Championship games. His huge catches against the Jets in the 69 playoff game, would also forshadow his TD catch in the SB that would put away the Vikings. His physicality and propensity for one-handed catches made him a KC legend.

His cons are mostly about getting hurt, which happened in 1968, parts of 70 and later after the team got older and could no longer challenge the Raiders. Getting hurt during the dead-ball era was nothing new for alot of receivers, but the Chiefs simply didnt have the QBs to get the ball to him when he was healthy, and never could get a proper complimentary receiver with him to take away double coverage. Taylor's best years were when the team still had a healthy, Chris Burford to help him on the other side.

Frank Pitts, Gloster Richardson and Elmo Wright had their moments, especially Wright, who played well in the classic 1971 playoff game where the Dolphins double covered Taylor, but these were few and far between. Due to wear and tear, Taylor's last effective season was 1972 when he was 30 years old.

Did Taylor help Len Dawson reach the HOF? Absolutely, but Dawson himself had a tough time staying on the field, and being effective, during the 1970s. Had the team had a more talented backup, which might have reduced their need to run the ball so often, Taylor might already be in the Hall.