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Re: 2026 Hall of Fame Seniors - Last 52 Ranked by Position Group
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 7:42 pm
by JohnTurney
pgconboy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 28, 2025 11:45 pm
Can see that Lester Hayes is truly in a penalty tier of his own.
And that is confirmed by watching old games. Dude was grabby. One voter is pretty upset he didn't make the 34...
noted it was first-time he didn't advance in his years as a senior.
Re: 2026 Hall of Fame Seniors - Last 52 Ranked by Position Group
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:26 pm
by pgconboy
I think that sort of begs the question, if someone hangs around in contention for ages and can never crack through that it might be time to look in different directions.
Re: 2026 Hall of Fame Seniors - Last 52 Ranked by Position Group
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:17 pm
by SeahawkFever
pgconboy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:26 pm
I think that sort of begs the question, if someone hangs around in contention for ages and can never crack through that it might be time to look in different directions.
In my opinion if player A is given a couple shots on the Senior Committee and doesn’t get in, then someone else should be given a chance, and I wouldn’t bring up Player A again until the committee that would vote on him has changed significantly from last time he was up.
How often does who gets to vote for Hall of Famers on the Senior Committee change out of curiosity?
Re: 2026 Hall of Fame Seniors - Last 52 Ranked by Position Group
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:31 pm
by pgconboy
In a different but recent thread, Ken noted this year was a huge shakeup across the 3 committees
Edit, I take it back it was earlier in this one:
"Keep in mind that this year, the makeups of the three committees are different, so you will see different results. The hall randomly picked half of the main committee and spread them out over the three committees. The remaining half will be on the committees next year.
For example, John McLain and I are the only members of the Contributors committee remaining from last year. Everyone else is new."
Carl Banks
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2025 10:23 pm
by JohnTurney
Parcells: “He’s certainly one of the better outside linebackers I’ve ever seen. I saw him up close. I think he compares favorably with many of the guys who are currently in the Hall of Fame. He’s been unfairly overlooked. Carl was overlooked because you’re talking about arguably one of the greatest defensive players who ever played is playing opposite you. People had a tendency to watch that guy. He wasn’t the dynamic explosive guy that Lawrence Taylor was. He was more of a methodical grinder that you had to block. If you didn’t block him, he was going to be a very disruptive force in the game.”
"better" "Favorablke" not the dynamic exposive, the methodicalgrinder"
Just a question is that HOF? orv HOVG?
there are more quoete out there that are more effusive, but thought that was kind of honest by Parcells. Didn't oversell.
Re: 2026 Hall of Fame Seniors - Last 52 Ranked by Position Group
Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2025 1:38 pm
by Brian wolf
Thats the problem with the Giants linebackers. You already have Taylor and Carson elected. Banks was good, but is light on accolades, like Brad Van Pelt. Reasons is more underrated, like Brian Kelly. I think even Carson was borderline but had a great reputation on short yardage play and his second team All-Pro selections.
Re: 2026 Hall of Fame Seniors - Last 52 Ranked by Position Group
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2025 1:57 pm
by pgconboy
https://www.profootballhof.com/news/202 ... s-of-2026/
Ken Anderson, Roger Craig, Henry Ellard, LC Greenwood, Joe Jacoby, Eddie Meador, Stanley Morgan, Steve Tasker, Otis Taylor.
Fairly uninspiring historical group, IMO, but with coach / contributor competition and current voting rules the list is probably fairly moot.
Re: 2026 Hall of Fame Seniors - Last 52 Ranked by Position Group
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2025 4:07 pm
by Brian wolf
With Hester in as a returner, why not put a gunner in with Tasker?
Vinatieri can get in this or next year as well ...
Re: 2026 Hall of Fame Seniors - Last 52 Ranked by Position Group
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2025 6:17 pm
by JohnTurney
pgconboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 1:57 pm
Fairly uninspiring historical group,
disappoint no 'super' seniors. That's the way of it, I guess.
3 WRs...
How do they rank?
Morgan, elite as deep threat for first part. As a more complete or "#1" type guy ... season averages not that impressive. One monstrous year among a bunch of so-so wons, post-1982
Ellard ... most impressive is 800 yards receiving catching passes from Deiter Brock in 1985. Or maybe 6 TD catches from Jeff Kemp. 3 190-yard games. More consistgen as true #1 -- call it 1986 on ...
both have about same number of 100 yard games. Neither killer playoffstagts. Both excellent punt returners.
How do you separate them? Maybe they are elite HOVGers rather then low-sih HOFers?
Otis Taylor, IMO, 4 great years, even accounting for dead ball era, to me 800 yards in 1972 is a "1,000" yard season -- my issue, even counting 1969 as great year (SB performance) was done by age 30.
uninspiring is a good word
Re: 2026 Hall of Fame Seniors - Last 52 Ranked by Position Group
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:04 am
by SeahawkFever
JohnTurney wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 6:17 pm
pgconboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 1:57 pm
Fairly uninspiring historical group,
disappoint no 'super' seniors. That's the way of it, I guess.
3 WRs...
How do they rank?
Morgan, elite as deep threat for first part. As a more complete or "#1" type guy ... season averages not that impressive. One monstrous year among a bunch of so-so wons, post-1982
Ellard ... most impressive is 800 yards receiving catching passes from Deiter Brock in 1985. Or maybe 6 TD catches from Jeff Kemp. 3 190-yard games. More consistgen as true #1 -- call it 1986 on ...
both have about same number of 100 yard games. Neither killer playoffstagts. Both excellent punt returners.
How do you separate them? Maybe they are elite HOVGers rather then low-sih HOFers?
Otis Taylor, IMO, 4 great years, even accounting for dead ball era, to me 800 yards in 1972 is a "1,000" yard season -- my issue, even counting 1969 as great year (SB performance) was done by age 30.
uninspiring is a good word
Of the three receivers if you asked me to pick one, I might take Ellard.
Three pro bowls, two first team all pros, and he ranked third all time in receiving yardage up to his retirement in 1998 as well as sixth in receptions.
Not sure how amazing I’d say the Rams quarterbacks in the 1980’s and early 90’s would be, and the Redskins quarterbacks in the mid 90’s would be either.