JWL wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:08 pm
The final drive of the first half against Denver can be the focus of an entire chapter in a book about Jets franchise futility. That is how bad that drive was from multiple standpoints. If we are talking a 400+ page book with 31 chapters and huge portions devoted to Lou Holtz and Richie Kotite and Adam Gase, that drive would still be worth its own entire 15-page chapter. That is just how truly putrid it was. That is the low point of the Aaron Glenn tenure. It will be difficult to top it in terms of patheticness. Now, Glenn might have to show up naked at a game to be fired before the end of the season. He could certainly be a one-and-done though like Steve Wilks was in Arizona or Rod Rust in New England if the team continues to struggle and Glenn has a hard time getting out of his own way.
The Jets had several close losses to good teams and with two key defensive players out and new systems in place on offense, defense, and special teams. I would have been okay with 4-13 if the team looked competent. I'm still going to be fine with that. Especially now, in fact, since that would mean improving from a winning percentage of .000 to go 4-7 the rest of the way. I think it is still too early and I won't make rash judgments off of six games when the offensive, defensive, and special teams coordinators are all new too. I did not take the over on the Jets win total this year which I think was 5.5 or 6.5. Too many new elements and too destroyed of a team, even mentally, from the horrible second half of the Saleh/Ulbrich era.
We'll revisit this thread later in the season and see what we each think then.
Okay, now that the season is done I will agree with sheajets. Aaron Glenn is terrible as an NFL head coach.
Let's examine several reasons as to why. Presented in no particular order-
1. Justin Fields is probably now doomed to a career as a backup. Maybe he'll start by default for 2 or 3-game stretches later in his career but I cannot see him being handed a starting job any time soon. That said, I felt the Jets gave up way too early on him. The other QBs on the roster were never going to be a long-term solutions (oft-injured aging Tyrod Taylor and Hall of Fame Game 4th quarter clock killer type/camp arm Brady Cook) so why not keep putting Fields out there? Fields was hand-picked by Glenn. Then Glenn basically gave him half a season to try to prove anything. Again, as key as anything here is that there wasn't a better option so Fields should have played more.
2. The end of the first half of the game vs the Broncos and the end of the first half of the game vs Carolina. The drives by the Jets offense in those spots can be studied at coaching clinics in terms of what not to do.
3. Barely any of the veterans seemed to get better under Glenn. Most got worse. Quincy Williams, a former All-Pro, seemed to forget how to play football at times.
4. Comparisons to Johnny Mazur and Card-Pitt. If you compare well to that head coach and that team, then you have problems, massive problems.
The follow paragraph had been written to coworkers prior to the season finale.
The Jets are the first team since the 1972 Patriots to lose by 23 or more points in four consecutive games. Johnny Mazur was the head coach responsible for that mess. After losing games by scores of 14-38, 13-41, 3-33, and 10-34, the Pates lost their next game by a score of 17-24. Then they lost 0-52. Mazur was then canned with five games left in the season never to be a head coach again. Mazur is not a head coach to whom a head coach would want to closely be compared.
The Jets didn't stop there. They chose to lose by more than 23 points again to make it five in a row. No other team in history has accomplished this amazing feat of atrociousness.
I don't know if this list is full (I haven't finished my research) but these are the teams I have come across so far that have had 5-game losing streaks where the team was spanked by at least 20 points in each of the five games-
1944 Card-Pitt
1949 Packers
1952 Texans
1965 Steelers
2025 Jets
Point differential in those five game spans-
1944 Card-Pitt: 120
1949 Packers: 114
1952 Texans: 128
1965 Steelers: 129
2025 Jets: 134
As bad as a merged unit and a franchise that was one-and-done? Special, special company.
5. The defense that was comatose for most of the season. 0 interceptions. 4 takeaways. Both are historical marks of futility.
6. Rolling over and playing dead against all three divisional foes in the 5-game stretch to finish the season. I understand half the players who played will not be on the team in 2026 but I am sure the coaching staff is planning on being back. Any professional pride? No, you say? Oh, okay. Thanks, guys.
7. Can I hear something strategic from Glenn in a press conference instead of bromides about effort and how things will be fixed and the tape will be watched? I am not expecting Glenn to sound like Greg Cosell and dissect plays for the media and fans. Too much strategy talk could be detrimental if opponents hear it but there could be a little bit more from him than talking about effort and that things will be fixed.
You don’t hear it a ton but you will hear other head coaches giving the media and fans a little more than bromides and nothingness talk. When head coaches are interviewed by the press, they are talking to the press, the fans, and their players all at the same time. They have to be careful about what they say. The thing is, sometimes you have to not sound like you are talking to people who discovered the sport of football five days ago. C’mon. We know better. We don’t want to hear how good practice was leading up to a game that you lost by three touchdowns.
“I have to look at the film” is 95% of the time coach speak for “I know that was problematic but I am not going to answer that question now and I may not answer it even if you ask it again in Monday’s press conference.” Again, most of us didn’t discover football five days ago. We watched the game, Coach. Did you not watch it too? Were you playing Candy Crush or Royal Kingdom on your cell phone during the game?
It is okay to say, “This game was not good enough. It is an embarrassment for us to lose to our division rivals 42 to 10 and be stomped on like a bear stepping on a snail before it walks into a stream to catch some salmon. The operation we are looking to run here doesn’t have
Be obliterated by a division rival in front of our own fans written anywhere in the team mission statement. What more can I say? I am disgusted by my performance today as the head coach and the result. I’ll now take your questions.”
(If a coach throws in some weird animal reference, the fans really like this. It is science. By “fans” I am referring specifically to myself.)
There is no reason to say, “We will look at the film and look to turn things around.” You don’t need to say that because it is obvious that that is what you will do. A horse trainer doesn’t need to say, “I am going to go into the stable today.” Of course you don’t have to say that. The horse is there. You have to go into the stable to train the horse. A werewolf doesn’t say, “I am going to rip my shirt off tonight.” Of course a werewolf will rip its shirt off. It’s an obvious thing a werewolf will do. Just tell us the team stunk in the game, that it was an utter embarrassment, the result will not be tolerated, and we have to wear this stink like a dog that got sprayed by a skunk. That is what the fans want to hear.
When can I have a smooth talking, master of the media Jets head coach? I suppose that is one aspect that makes a good head coach a good head coach. The Jets have not had one since Rex Ryan but, as I correctly predicted with him before he coached his first game with the Jets, his act had a shelf life. Herman Edwards was good with the media too.
Speaking of Edwards, something that happened last night reminded me of him. That is for another thread.