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Quick summary: 10 Offfense, 4 Defense, 1 ST Prior Inducted: Eric Allen, Jared Allen, Antonio Gates Current Fell Off: Steve Smith, Fred Taylor New Adds: Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Frank Gore, Jason Witten, Kevin Williams Returning: Willie Anderson, Yanda, Jahri / Holt, Reggie Wayne / Eli Manning /...

I am always annoyed by folks that can't answer a simple question posed in a thread. So I'll be annoyed at my own existence for a bit.

I would pick neither. I think together they make excellent gatekeepers for setting the HOF bar. Sort of like the clubs on the old wack-a-mole arcade game.

Here's the comparison between last year and this year.

Inducted (3): Antonio Gates, Eric Allen, Jared Allen

Fell Off (3): Ricky Watters, Anquan Boldin, James Harrison

New (7): Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Frank Gore, Larry Fitzgerald, Jason Witten, Lomas Brown, Kevin Williams

I won't claim to be a wide receiver luminary, though would rank them: Ellard > Morgan > Taylor. As an aside, I think Ellards punt returning could be considered a plus for his case and Morgans perhaps a tie breaker for similar cases. But in this trio it wouldn't be needed for ranking. It might also b...

https://www.profootballhof.com/news/2025/11/9-seniors-reach-semifinalist-stage-for-pro-football-hall-of-fame-s-class-of-2026/ Ken Anderson, Roger Craig, Henry Ellard, LC Greenwood, Joe Jacoby, Eddie Meador, Stanley Morgan, Steve Tasker, Otis Taylor. Fairly uninspiring historical group, IMO, but with...

I added them as an attachment and then clicked "Place inline"

In a different but recent thread, Ken noted this year was a huge shakeup across the 3 committees Edit, I take it back it was earlier in this one: "Keep in mind that this year, the makeups of the three committees are different, so you will see different results. The hall randomly picked half of ...

I think that sort of begs the question, if someone hangs around in contention for ages and can never crack through that it might be time to look in different directions.

Pro Football Reference has historical penalty data going back to 1978, I believe via the gamebook summaries from Aaron Schatz and Quirky Research. Some of these players are missing 1 or a few seasons at the start of their careers but I don't think it would throw the numbers too far off. I included p...

That's a good q on if/who holds stickum against him. Lester had a few years were he committed an unreasonable amount of penalties.